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. welcome, ben bernanke. like dan the man and myself, we're going to be looking at that participation rate. i don't think ben's going to want the lower rate to be driven by issues that are economically sound. >> i think you're right. the one thing you have to pay attention to, what if we start stronger numbers. >> i hope unemployment goes down, participation rate goes up. now, i'm going to hit in another arena. i love simon and simon was given one of the republicans a hard time. and i understand that. hey, where was the entitlement reform? where was the media asking about it last night? >> we hadn't heard anything. >> these fiscal conservatives, maybe they're not as good as the president. they are the best. at playing political chess. >> yes, they are. >> it just unfortunate there's very little correlation between winning the chess game of politics and winning what's best for the country. >> you win a battle here, but what about the long-term war here? >> they're not winning anything right now. i'm so disgusted right now. it's what's been going on in our country for the past four years. th
cliff. this fall is really going to hurt. ben white of morning money, dennis, said an excuse to get a bic can keeney on the cover. >> relatively slow news day. what geithner did yesterday is almost as if he is strapping a damsel in distress to the tracks and saying the stakes are rising higher. the markets are taking all this tension, all this sort of -- these things at stake to really make the point perhaps that you have to have those stakes really high for people actually to get a deal. >> on "fast" last night when that letter crossed in the green rooms, we were chatting, we said this sounds like a ploy on the part of the treasury to actually get people to start moving. obviously, there wasn't a market selloff, did have the stumbling blocks and traders on friday said almost better if we did see the markets pull back more to crystallize what this could mean for the u.s. economy to members of congress. we didn't see that. it is a numbers game though in terms of what will happen. we know need 60 votes to clear a fill buster in the senate. seven republicans need to go along a lot of j
but not be very good investments. >> that's the question people have been asking, value investors since ben graham created the field. the answer is, there's no identifiable catalyst. the beauty of value investing is you buy something less than its intrinsic value, and eventually that value gets realized. it just can't see what's going to make it happen up front. >> charles, david, thank you guys. talk to you soon. >> thank you for having me. >> we take you live to the nymex to find out exactly what is behind the $2.45 move. that is a big move. for a number of shoppers, post-christmas rituals include, of course, gift cards today. and many unhappy returns. up next, jane wells will be with us in l.a. with the lowdown. good morning. >> hi, simon. yeah, you were just talking about it a little bit. there's been this transition from my generation, yes, i'm old, i like to gift, even if i don't like it, to my kids, 20, 22, they just want gift cards they don't care about the thought. give them the money. and is it enough to save christmas. we'll have that after the break. >>> welcome back to "squawk on the
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